Leveling Smithing Skyrim Special Edition
Just wondering, does anyone have any advice on how to raise smithing quickly? I'm currently sitting at 48 in smithing, and I want the Arcane Blacksmith and Dragon Armor perks, and I'm taking the perks on the left side of the tree (Mainly the light armors) Thanks in advance.
Loading editorTrain Train Train.... Smith iron daggers... (just smith amything you can)..
Eorlund Gray-Mane is the best trainer.
Loading editorAbout smithing the iron daggers, I heard from a friend that that's the fastest way to level it up, but I also heard from others that it no longer is since the patch...
Loading editor- Vibrant Violet Soul wrote:
About smithing the iron daggers, I heard from a friend that that's the fastest way to level it up, but I also heard from others that it no longer is since the patch...Have not heard about the patch effecting this. Would like to know more though as my next character is forth coming.
Loading editor at your level of smithing the easyest way is to do any dwemer dungon and take all the scrap metal and smelt it into ingots. here the list of the one you can smelt. bent scrap metal,large decorative dwemer strut ,large dwemer plate metal,large dwemer strut,small dwemer plate metal and solid dwemer metal. only dwemer scrap metal cant be smelt.
mzulft is a good dungeon around 400 ingots can be made. and around calcelmo he got some scrap around him ;) hope its help.
Loading editorI suggest to buy all the iron ingots you can to any vendor and make some dwemer bows. tons of them.
Loading editorI crafted A LOT OF IRON DAGGERS with Orcish Chestpieces, took the daggers and cahnted them with Banish and got good amount of money back, took me about 4-5hours straight. Not sure what version I was using, I am a PS3 player.
I DID IT TWICE, since my GF wanted to play and ruin my autosave XD
Loading editorCraft iron daggers, enchant them, then sell them. This will help you raise the level of smithing, enchanting and speech. All you need is enough filled soul gems, iron ingots and leather strips. Soul gems might be difficult to find and fill while iron ingots and leather strips could be find everywhere. And there's a good way to obtain both strips and souls. While you're hunting in the wild, you can loot the leather of an animal after killing it, along with its soul.
Loading editorNordic maces (made with advanced armours perk) have a nice cost to material ratio, 1 mace has a base cost of 410, and only needs 1 steel, 1 quicksilver, and 1 leather strap to make ever since Dragonborn it's what i'v used to train smithing on all my chars.
Loading editorI would say the patch did lower the experience given for making iron daggers. Jewery is a good one Halted Stream Camp is full of iron and a spell to turn iron to silver and silver to gold (equivalent exchange be dammed). Making a house in Heathfire gives a lot of experience from the huge amounts of nails and stuff made and as Wudlow said gather and use Dwemer scrap theres alot of it and its free, Sleeping had a good point too enchant and sell what you make as much as you can while your at it.
And remember what the wiki page say's 'experience gained from smithing is based on the gold value of the items smithed'.
Loading editorTo expand on Wudlow and AzuraKnight's advice, making bows from Dwemer ingots gets the most value and, therefore the most raise in the smithing level.
Transmuting iron ore into gold ore and making jewelry is helped by making a set of fortify alteration gear, to lower the magika needed. Using any jewels you can find when making the jewelry helps raise the value as well.
Loading editorYep, careful using some jewels though some are hard to come across (with out Prowlers Profit) and can be used for quests. If you want Peryite's Deadric item keep a flawless ruby, three flawless amethysts and two flawless sapphire are also need for two minor quests
Loading editorwhen i start playing the game not patch i went to like 90 in few hours of playing. that was kinda ruin the game because it was too easy and my caracter was overpower. now its more equilibrated. and iron dagger doesnt give much experience as before. Have fun crafting!
Loading editorI believe I have the formulas right.
one iron ingot+one leather strip=one iron dagger
one leather+two leather strips=leather bracer
over, and over, and over...
If anyone has a better way I'd love to hear it.
Loading editor- 68.188.15.246 wrote:
If anyone has a better way I'd love to hear it.
Yes, see all the above comments.
Loading editor Crafting jewelry is great, so is building materials (if you have Hearthfire). The jewelry is easy and affordable if you have the transmute spell. But if not hit as many mines as you can and buy as much materials as possible. Also, especially at level 48, improving all the stuff you find on excursions helps also. And when smithing chose the most expensive item available to craft helps, I've noticed. At first banded iron armor is a good one but can get expensive.
Loading editorOne thing to note: It's not good to create a ton of Leather Bracers and Iron Daggers. They have the lowest value, progressing the least, and are the most consuming for progression. Making items with higher values (Jewelry is perfect) will fetch you much higher progression. Also, improving adds to the skill through value increased. Enchanted apparel and strong Fortify Smithing Potions will raise value, strength, AND progression. With a very high Alchemy and Enchanting, you can easily reach Arcane Blacksmith, and eventually Dragon Armor!
Loading editorUnpatched with no downloaded content on Xbox 360: I can confirm the value of item smithed doesn't play a role in experience earned. Smithing iron daggers or leather bracers will advance smithing very quickly.
I like to hunt with a bow. Between run ins with preditors, sneeking, smithing the hides into bracers, enchanting them, and selling them, I advance archery, light armor, sneak, smithing, enchanting, and speech all while making a tone of money.
Loading editorThere is a problem with that. It does not work both later on, and it does not work very well after the update. Making something else (Leather Armor instead of Leather Bracers, or taking the Dwarven Smithing Perk, raiding a few Dwarven ruins and making a lot of Dwarven Bows instead of Iron Daggers) is ideal, and one can easily relate Smithing progression to Alchemy. The value of the item made dictates the progression, and improving counts to the added value, so like what I said earlier, Alchemy and Enchanting can help improve your progression rate.
I also strongly agree with your idea of hunting. Many animals out in the wilderness contain hides or pelts that when tanned, can yield massive amounts of Leather. I would target Sabre Cats or Foxes above all, because the leather for both animals is 2:1 per unit, most useful for the weight. But, Archery is not the only way to kill animals from afar; mages can use their spells such as Firebolt or Chain Lightning to kill animals with ease.
Loading editorWe prefer Ice Spike, especially when hunting deer in scrub. The spike lingers in the corpse and makes it much easier to spot, especially at dusk or dawn.
Be careful what you tan though, some pelts are worth more than the leather they yield. Also, some tan into more weight as leather than the hide, so if you are close to being overencumbered, pay attention.
Loading editorCraft jewelry with gems, then sell it, then buy more jewels and silver/gold, then make more jewelry, etc etc. improves smithing And makes money
Loading editorI just buy all the leather and leather straps a vender has and make leather bracers over and over again.. I get to level 100 real fast...
Loading editorI'm going to say it one more time... 'experience gained from smithing is based on the gold value of the items smithed.'Iron and leather is a very slow way to raise the skill.
Loading editorLeather Armour is good, 'cos leather is easy to make and find, I once used to use Leather Bracers until my friend showed me how much Leather armour upgrades your smithing.
Loading editorTrue, but can you rely on Leather Armor? Using those perks and making the highest value for the resorces is pretty good. Making Leather Helmets is better, you get relatively the same increase with the bonus of saving a Leather Strip.
Loading editorGo outside of Whiterun, hunt every single deer, elk, wolf, fox, bear, sabre cat and goat you find in the plains, get there hides, go to a tanning rack, make leather and leather strips, make as many Leather Helmet as you can, enchant them, then sell them.
Or, go to the Reach, find some gold mines, mine like madman, go to a nearby Smelter, make gold ingots, go to a forge, make Gold Rings or Gold Necklace.
Or, if you have Hearthfire, build a Manor all by yourself, making all those nails and locks and iron fittings will be good for your Smithing skills.
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Yeah, I noticed Hearthfire helps, but I don't really want to build another house again. I just started a new character (Have not yet completed the main questline, mind you) and I just finished building Lakeview Manor on my first character about a week ago. Anyways, I'm seeing that making jewelry and high value items is the best way to go, along with making leather armor..
Loading editor- The Outlander wrote:
Go outside of Whiterun, hunt every single deer, elk, wolf, fox, bear, sabre cat and goat you find in the plains, get there hides, go to a tanning rack, make leather and leather strips, make as many Leather Helmet as you can, enchant them with Banish Deadra, then sell them.Or, go to the Reach, find some gold mines, mine like madman, go to a nearby Smelter, make gold ingots, go to a forge, make Gold Rings or Gold Necklace.
Or, if you have Hearthfire, build a Manor all by yourself, making all those nails and locks and iron fittings will be good for your Smithing skills.
You can't enchant Leather Helmets with Banish Daedra. That's a weapon Enchantment.
Loading editor - KernelFodder wrote:
You can't enchant Leather Helmets with Banish Daedra. That's a weapon Enchantment.
Sorry, I where thinking about Iron Daggers, my bad.
Loading editor The best enchantment to add to items of apparal are Muffle and Waterbreathing. the size soul used dosen't matter, petty souls work just as well as grand. You get the same increase in enchanting skill and the same amount of gold from the buyer.
Kill deer and elk while trapping their souls. Tan their hides and make leather helmets of waterbreathing and leather boots of muffle. You get a modest boost in smithing and a larger boost in enchanting and speechcraft, and piles of septims!
Loading editorTrue, and weapons could be enchanted with Banish and sold as knock-off pieces. One of those enchanted with a Petty can fetch a lot more money than many money potions.
Loading editor1) Get a horse ASAP. It's the best $1000 you'll spend in the game. With it you can fast travel while exceeding your Carrying Capacity. Get a bow and go dungeon diving and loot EVERYTHING.
2) Go to town, find a blacksmith, sell the loot (except weapons & armor) and buy ALL of his ores & ingots. If you have any money left over, buy their NON-enchanted weapons & armor.
3) IMPROVE weapons & armor, because it takes just one ingot to do that versus crafting new stuff requires several ingots/items. Do NOT smelt iron & silver ore, store them in your house for now, because later you can use Transmute to turn them into GOLD.
4) Sell the improved weapons and armor back to the blacksmith and everyone else in town.
BTW: Do the same with alchemyingredients & make potions. Wiki articles tell what the best recipes are, but you can't lose, the ingredients are super-cheap compared to the value of the potions.
Furthermore, enchanting also raises the value of weapons & armor.
I found that the BEST thing to do is enchant weapons & improve armors via smithing.
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1) Get a horse ASAP. It's the best $1000 you'll spend in the game. With it you can fast travel while exceeding your Carrying Capacity. Get a bow and go dungeon diving and loot EVERYTHING.Would Arvak count as a Horse? And could you make do with a Reikling and another
packmuleFollower?Loading editor I like the Ice Spike idea! Very cool! lol I've struggled to find an elk more than once.
Selling the pelts would break the hunting cycle for me though. Hunt: Tan: Forge: Enchant: Sell: Buy Arrows and Empty Soul Gems: Repeat. Long term I'll look at it though. As my enchanting is going up, my return is going down. Until then, supplementing income with loot offers itself up often anyway. Between the 'Nord' or 'Breton' from nowhere, Dark Brotherhood Assasin, Altmer Enforcers, Bandits, and occasional jewelry on animals I'm always returning from the hunt with loot.
Loading editorOf course Arvak counts as a horse!!!
But, I would think anyone who has him would have already maxed out their smithing. I've maxed out EVERYTHING and I still don't have Arvak, yet. I use 2Dead Thralls because I have the Twin Souls perk. Does Arvak count as a conjuration? In other words, if I summon him, will one of my dead thralls drop dead? Dead Thralls make good 'walking trunks' as well, because they do NOT turn to ash when they die, and therefore can be reanimated over and over again.
Loading editorYes it does. However, my Conjuration is at level 20, so I cannot use Dead Thrall without finding it (lol I have Flame Thrall and have used it)
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I like the Ice Spike idea! Very cool! lol I've struggled to find an elk more than once.Selling the pelts would break the hunting cycle for me though. Hunt: Tan: Forge: Enchant: Sell: Buy Arrows and Empty Soul Gems: Repeat. Long term I'll look at it though. As my enchanting is going up, my return is going down. Until then, supplementing income with loot offers itself up often anyway. Between the 'Nord' or 'Breton' from nowhere, Dark Brotherhood Assasin, Altmer Enforcers, Bandits, and occasional jewelry on animals I'm always returning from the hunt with loot.
Little tip: Find a Mine, and mine out all the ore. Always carry a pickaxe with you so you can Mine Ore veins you run across. Then, with some of the unused/spare Leather Strips, you make Iron Daggers for enchanting, and enchant them with Banish. It fetches the highest value, and increases Enchanting progression the most, even when enchanted with a Petty or Lesser.
Loading editor Oh, yeah... Another thing you can do to improve smithing is get the Notched Pickaxe from near the top of the Throat of the World. It enhances Smithing, and it can be disenchanted to make 2 pickaxes to double the effect. Unfortunately, I think it maxes out at 100, so you can actually smith better improvements by stacking Fortify Smithing enchanted apparel.
Loading editorIn the 'Hunt: Tan: Forge: Enchant: Sell: Buy Arrows and Empty Soul Gems: Repeat.' cycle, Enchanting is leveling the fastest. Smithing a close second. Sneak next. Then Light Armor, Archery, and finally Speech. I'm probably going to have to switch to an ebony bow just for the sake of getting Archery to level, then switch back to a lighter bow.
Enchanting 92. Smithing ~85. Sneak ~75. Light Armor ~70. Archery ~40 lol. Speech is about 30.
Not using any sleeping or standing stone bonuses.
My cycle remains the same: Hunt with bow, forge hides into leather bracers, enchant with archery, sell. Hunt again. I must be pissing the world off because I'm getting visited by an assassin nearly every trip out. lol
Loading editorMake iron daggers, talk to Eorlund Grey-mane(whiterun) and Balimund(riften).
Loading editorThat, once again, does little, making only Iron Daggers and cheap armor. While you can make lots of these, they do not provide much progression, and 40 Iron Daggers are less in progression than Dwarven Armor and weapons. Even the chestplate will provide a much bigger boost alone.
Loading editorBefore crafting anything id reccomend grabbing the warrior stone ancient knowledge and getting the lovers sleep bonus which makes smithing level 60% faster then if youve gotten the atherial crown go grab the lovers stone for a total of 75% faster smithing
Loading editorUse potions and enchanted clothing to improve the quality (and the gold value) of the items you smith.
Remember, improving weapons gets you experience, too. Get every kind of metal you can lay your hands on and you can improve items even if you don't have that smithing perk yet. Potions really help with this.
Take the perks that get you to Dwarven Smithing. Dwarven metal is actually the most plentiful and easy to get material in Skyrim. Go to dwemer ruins and take every weapon and every piece of scrap metal you see. How? Do not pick the stuff up yourself. Bring a follower and tell them to pick it up. A faster way to do this is putting it all in a chest and then telling your follower to take everything out of the chest. Items your followers pick up directly don't seem to count towards the weight limit.
You can end up with hundreds of Dwarven Ignots much faster than iron, all without spending a dime. Grinding out Dwarven daggers will add up faster than iron ones.
Loading editorTo get from level 60 to 90 I smithed a TON of ebony stuff and that leveled me uo in 1-2 days
Loading editorThe way I improved my smithing skill was get a crap load of leather and iron ingots and just smith a bunch of iron daggers or leather armor pieces. I kept doing this for a while until my smithing was around in the 90s, then I just simply took it a little slower. Now my Daedric Armor is just amazing. My smithing is 100.
Loading editorOh and I forgot to mention. I also sold all of the daggers and leather armor pieces I made so they wouldn't take up space.
Loading editorI went up the light armor path first. Buying unimproved glass bows and smithing them was very profitable, allowing me to buy all the other metal ingots the blacksmiths had, and improving more stuff. I pretty much looted everything I could get my hands on. If it was good I kept it, if not, it got smithed-up and sold right away to buy more metal ingots. It didn't take too long to reach 100 Smithing & 100 Speech .
Loading editorHere's my guide on how to get smithing fastest and cheapest way, follow the steps and it will be rewarding:
1) Go to Halted Stream Camp and clear out the bandits
2) Enter the mine and watch out for a pressure plate lying on the floor, take out the thug with a sneak bow or how ever you want
3) Take a pickaxe and mine the ore
4) Open the gate then mine the others ( be wary for the hanging shackles since they alarm the bandits)
5) Use any flame spell on the floor near the forge to take dispose of the bandits swiftly, then fight the chief.
6) On the chief's table, there is a book called transmute ore mineral, take it and use it
7) Take the loot from the chest and the remaining ore's found in the area.
8) fast travel to Whiterun and stand beside the smelter
9) keep using the Transmute spell until all of your ore's are into gold ore and smelt some gold ingots
10) make some jewellery near the smelter, And sell them for some septims and improve speech a bit more.
Tip: You gain more experience on smithing by the QUALITY of your smith. not the quantity.
Loading editorDo iron daggers, and transmute all iron ore into gold ore, then make gold rings.
Loading editorNo. Make high value items such as Orcish Armor or Dwarven Bows instead of Iron Daggers, and make jeweled necklaces and rings when possible, as they fetch much better skill improvements than anything else.
Loading editordwarven bows seem to level smithing up the easiest and cheapest by picking up all yhe dwarrven scrap
Loading editorI went to all the mines, got all the silver ore I could hold made as many ingots as I could and made hundreds of silver necklaces.
Loading editorI went up the light armor side of the Smithing path first, so Glass Armor & Glass Weapons were the way to go. I quickly figured out that it's best to just buy ALL of the blacksmith's metal ingots and ore, as well as ALL of their UNIMPROVED & NON-enchanted armor & weapons. Then expend a single ingot for a HUGE increase in value, then buy more from the next guy.
Loading editorJust for kicks, I'd like to say:
Smith iron daggers and leather bracers :)_
Loading editor- 75.71.50.254 wrote:
Just for kicks, I'd like to say:Smith iron daggers and leather bracers :)_
It's more efficient to IMPROVE stuff. You'll acquire plenty of daggers & other stuff from all the jokers you have to kill in your adventures, so there's no need to craft them yourself, and the payoff is a lot higher IMPROVING them versus making them because the experience is based on value added.
Loading editor I'd say use jewelry. Silver and gems are easy to find, and their value is high (depends). Iron daggers are slow. The fact that exp is based on value is being repeated over and over. 122.62.148.133 21:28, May 3, 2013 (UTC)
Loading editorIt's been stated before, but it bears repeating, that 'grinding' smithing, rather than just working your way up, can lead to problems down the road, when your smithing has raised your level & thus the level of 'leveled' enemies, but your fighting skills haven't been improved. This isn't such a big deal, IMHO, provided that you use your smithing skill to make awesome bows, which kick even better opponents' butts, especially when combined with sneak attacks and/or poison.
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I use Transmute Ore and mine as much iron ore as I can find to craft a lot of silver jewelry (I have more jewels for silver than gold jewelry) then I enchant the jewelry and sell it. It doesn't take up as much weight and can get you just as much cash with the added bonus of leveling enchanting.
Loading editorCraft jewelery and light armor specifically bracers. Enchant them and sell it, you can earn 3 times what you spent on making them. hunt some creatures in the wild if you're out of leather. Ask a blacksmith for smith training( i prefer Eorlund since he can train you smithing up to 90 ). also your enchanting increases while you do that so it's a double bonus for ya and you can level up in a more fater rate than beating the crap out of bandits and wasting potions.
Loading editorAs your level increase you'll find more gold-worthy gems. I find flawless diamonds all the time.
Loading editorJewelry definitely. The amythysts and the garnets are easy to find. They increase your smithing quite quickly. I've never really got anywhere with the iron dagger strategy.
Loading editorForging an Iron Dagger requires an Iron Ingot ($7) & a Leather Strip ($3), but they're only worth $10, which is at best breaking even, but remember the leveling credit is based on value, it's much better to use any Iron Ingots or Leather Strips to IMPROVE existing daggers & bows. Simply buying ALL of (or as much as you can afford) the blacksmiths ingots and UNIMPROVED weapons and armor, then improving them yourself will level smithing quickly and provide you plenty of cash. You can do the same thing with Alchemy since the Ingredients are vastly less valuable than the Potions they make. It's a 'no-brainer'.
Loading editorLeveling smithing from 90 to 100 can be a real pain in the patooty, this is what i did:
- Get the Scholar's Insight Effect from the black book
- Read all this books:
Just like that and you will increase from 90 all the way to 100
P.S. try not to read any of those books until you are lvl +90 in smithing and have the Scholar's Insight effect
Loading editor- ODragono wrote:Vibrant Violet Soul wrote:Have not heard about the patch effecting this. Would like to know more though as my next character is forth coming.
About smithing the iron daggers, I heard from a friend that that's the fastest way to level it up, but I also heard from others that it no longer is since the patch...Neither did I but go to Dwaren Ruins and make ignots I got about 60 and 3 ignots=i dwaren bow so 60=20 bows that is roughy 6 level-ups and 3000 gold.
Loading editor - Wenny0119 wrote:
Jewelry definitely. The amythysts and the garnets are easy to find. They increase your smithing quite quickly. I've never really got anywhere with the iron dagger strategy.Also use the TRANSMUTE ORE from iron to silver to gold for EASY AND CHEAP JEWELERY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Loading editor - Ambiesusi wrote:
I use Transmute Ore and mine as much iron ore as I can find to craft a lot of silver jewelry (I have more jewels for silver than gold jewelry) then I enchant the jewelry and sell it. It doesn't take up as much weight and can get you just as much cash with the added bonus of leveling enchanting.So do I.
Loading editor i suppose you could just duplicate a skill book and use 'scholar's insight' perk...
Loading editorA) How do you duplicate anything?
B) Don't skill books just raise your stats the FIRST time you read them?
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no no no no no....no. That doesn't work because smithing now levels based on value. Since those things are worthless, it would take FOREVER.
Best way to do it is to smith jewelery. You get the Transmute ore spell and make as many gold rings as you can.
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- Nerevarine465 wrote:
no no no no no....no. That doesn't work because smithing now levels based on value. Since those things are worthless, it would take FOREVER.Best way to do it is to smith jewelery. You get the Transmute ore spell and make as many gold rings as you can.
I thought it was how many materials the thing your making is? If so The armors = Iron, Leather, Leather straps.
Loading editor you should try to fins something with a higher value... the higher the value the faster the skill goes up... an armor gives way more xp than a dagger, you need something you can get the materials for easily, cheap and fast... maybe leather or hide armor...
Loading editor- Nait Nelthar wrote:
you should try to fins something with a higher value... the higher the value the faster the skill goes up... an armor gives way more xp than a dagger, you need something you can get the materials for easily, cheap and fast... maybe leather or hide armor...
If you collect smeltable Dwemer objects (there are lots and lots in Dwemer ruins, and many ruins respawn fairly quickly), make Dwarven metal ingots, mine or purchase iron ore/iron ingots and make Dwarven bows and then upgrade them (rather than using all the Dwarven metal ingots making bows), you will raise your Smithing very rapidly. Selling the bows will take some time however, because of their value, but that will raise your speechcraft more.You can't get much cheaper than that.
Loading editor That is a common misconception, Dylan, no, it is about value, not quantity
Loading editorI collect Dwarven Armor and weapons for this since Large quantities of the ore are readily available and its an early perk to get I make jewelry to get to Dwarven smithing one level of smithing experience per Diamond Necklace to about 40. (You can also restoration glitch your smithing gear to something silly and level in one improvement) Depends on how you play.
Loading editorFirst get the transmute spell, get iron ore, transmute into gold, craft gold rings sell them. Rinse wash and repeat.
Loading editorI don't know if we should take advice from someone who doesn't know how to wash their hair.
Loading editorIf you dont have the latest update. Create heaps of iron daggers and leather bracers (they dont require much ingrediants and get your smithing skill up).
Loading editor- Wenny0119 wrote:
Jewelry definitely. The amythysts and the garnets are easy to find. They increase your smithing quite quickly. I've never really got anywhere with the iron dagger strategy.I repeat. I made a gold jeweled necklace and got quite a bit of exp. Go to Shrine of Mehrunes Dagon, and get all the gold ingots (they respawn). The garnets and amethyts are easy to find. Make necklaces/rings and you'll get good exp and septims.
Loading editor I think it's kind of dumb that people recommend iron daggers, when iron war axes take twice the materials for three times the price, which is what affects experiance growth. though I do reccomend making dwarven bows first.
the only problem I ever had was walking up to a smith to sell all my crap, they get pretty heavy after a while.
Loading editor- Pink Slim wrote:
I think it's kind of dumb that people recommend iron daggers, when iron war axes take twice the materials for three times the price, which is what affects experiance growth. though I do reccomend making dwarven bows first.the only problem I ever had was walking up to a smith to sell all my crap, they get pretty heavy after a while.
If you make jewelry, less weight...
Loading editor well yeah, but I mean with only iron and leather, don't go for daggers, go for war axes.
Loading editorDon't manufacture Iron ANYTHING.
- Get a horse, if you don't already have one.
- Go dungeon diving and collect all the weapons and armor from all your victims.
- Return to town and IMPROVE the weapons & armor.
- SELL the improved stuff & whatever other loot from your dungeon diving.
- Use the procedes to buy all the metal ore and ingots you can get your hands on.
- IMPROVE more weapons & armor.
- SAVE Iron Ore & Silver Ore until you can Transmute it into Gold Ore which can be used to make jewelry.
Loading editorI noticed a lot of ore just lying around in random place around The rift. (Mostly Gold & Iron)
Loading editorAn easy way to fill soul gems is using a bound weapon(particularly a bow) with the conjuration perk that makes bound weapons have a permanent soul trap on them and hunt animals for lower level gems and bandits and trolls for higher level gems.
Loading editorMake sure you have lots of empty Soul Gems when going to Solstheim, it's a target-rich environment, and the number of people who have them for sale is a lot more limited. I have hundreds of them stockpiles at home, and usually only carry about 20 of each, therefore all the ones I had with me got filled, and I also ended up getting a bunch of Greater and Grand ones filled with lower level souls. Stock up so that doesn't happen to you.
Loading editorMaking a house will improve smithing from default to approx. 44, after that I just transmute all iron into silver, into gold, then finally in gold rings. This is by far the most effective way to improve smithing since the 'iron dagger' patch. Building a house IS optional, it is just a fun way to gradually get your smithing up in advance to transmuting.
Loading editor- 93.93.223.11 wrote:
Making a house will improve smithing from default to approx. 44, after that I just transmute all iron into silver, into gold, then finally in gold rings. This is by far the most effective way to improve smithing since the 'iron dagger' patch. Building a house IS optional, it is just a fun way to gradually get your smithing up in advance to transmuting.If you side with the Silver-Bloods in Markarth, you get their ring, which has a 15% smithing fortify. Also, go to the Riften Docks and get the Lexicon from an Argonian. Finish the quest and you get a permanent smithing boost.
Loading editor Cheapest way to level up quickly might be to carry all that scrap out dwemer ruins and make Dwarven ingots, then us it to make and improve Dwarven armor to sell. The more valuable the item smithed, the faster the level up, I think.
Loading editor- Ambiesusi wrote:93.93.223.11 wrote:If you side with the Silver-Bloods in Markarth, you get their ring, which has a 15% smithing fortify. Also, go to the Riften Docks and get the Lexicon from an Argonian. Finish the quest and you get a permanent smithing boost.
Making a house will improve smithing from default to approx. 44, after that I just transmute all iron into silver, into gold, then finally in gold rings. This is by far the most effective way to improve smithing since the 'iron dagger' patch. Building a house IS optional, it is just a fun way to gradually get your smithing up in advance to transmuting.And don't forget The Forgemaster's Fingers (never got around to returning that one to the Orcs after they asked me to go fetch it for them--he he he...)
Loading editor Aside from jewelry, improving items with smithing is much more efficient than creating items from scratch in order to raise smithing, because experience is based on value improvement, and the jump in value its higher while improving usually takes only one ingot vice a laundry list of ingots, leather & other items. A little dungeon-diving provides plenty of crappy weapons & armor to use for building up smithing & enchanting. Selling them provides cash to buy more ingots.
Loading editorCollect all iron, silver, and gold ore. Get the Transmute spell and turn all your iron and silver into gold ores. Then just smith a bunch of jewelry, enchant it, sell it, whatever. It will skyrocket you up till about 30-40 smithing. Even after that it still works wonders. Quickest and most beneficial way to improve smithing that i've found.
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Go to the dwemmer museum in Markarth. Then steal all the stuff that can be smelted into dwarvn ingots. Smelt them outside and smith bows.
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I'm going to say it one more time... 'experience gained from smithing is based on the gold value of the items smithed.'Iron and leather is a very slow way to raise the skill.But It's the easiast way.You just need to go outside and kill some animals and take their hides.Craft leather using them.Then craft leather armors from them.Don't improve them.Just enchant them with the most valued enchanment.Then sell them.It's easy because you can find leather so easily.
Loading editor I just found out that fortify two handed, also improves smithing skill.So cool !!!!try it.
Loading editor- 112.135.169.169 wrote:AzuraKnight wrote:But It's the easiast way.You just need to go outside and kill some animals and take their hides.Craft leather using them.Then craft leather armors from them.Don't improve them.Just enchant them with the most valued enchanment.Then sell them.It's easy because you can find leather so easily.
I'm going to say it one more time... 'experience gained from smithing is based on the gold value of the items smithed.'Iron and leather is a very slow way to raise the skill.Either you can inch your way to 100 with Iron Daggers and Leather Armor, or you can run your way to 100 with Ebony, Glass, Elven, and Dwarven. The easiest way is usually never the best way.
One trip to a Malachite mine will give you masses of Malachite to throw around and use to create Glass. Using Potions and Enchanted apparel when you improve weapons and armor will boost more skills, but specifically boost your Smithing by leaps and bounds. One 100% Fortify Smithing Potion and 4 pieces of 25% Fortify Smithing armor will create Ancient Nord worth several hundred Septiums. Going up the Light Side of the Smithing tree? There is no point in having Dwarven Metal-Ebony. Improve the weapons and armor, them simply sell it. Same with the heavy side.
On a side note, improving items only adds to the Smithing skill the septium value GAINED, so improving a pickaxe when there is no value difference is a waste of Iron.
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On a side note, improving items only adds to the Smithing skill the septium value GAINED, so improving a pickaxe when there is no value difference is a waste of Iron.
Ordinary pickaxes cannot be improved....(enchanted, yes, improved, no).
Loading editor - MignightHawk wrote:112.135.169.169 wrote:Either you can inch your way to 100 with Iron Daggers and Leather Armor, or you can run your way to 100 with Ebony, Glass, Elven, and Dwarven. The easiest way is usually never the best way.AzuraKnight wrote:But It's the easiast way.You just need to go outside and kill some animals and take their hides.Craft leather using them.Then craft leather armors from them.Don't improve them.Just enchant them with the most valued enchanment.Then sell them.It's easy because you can find leather so easily.
I'm going to say it one more time... 'experience gained from smithing is based on the gold value of the items smithed.'Iron and leather is a very slow way to raise the skill.One trip to a Malachite mine will give you masses of Malachite to throw around and use to create Glass. Using Potions and Enchanted apparel when you improve weapons and armor will boost more skills, but specifically boost your Smithing by leaps and bounds. One 100% Fortify Smithing Potion and 4 pieces of 25% Fortify Smithing armor will create Ancient Nord worth several hundred Septiums. Going up the Light Side of the Smithing tree? There is no point in having Dwarven Metal-Ebony. Improve the weapons and armor, them simply sell it. Same with the heavy side.
On a side note, improving items only adds to the Smithing skill the septium value GAINED, so improving a pickaxe when there is no value difference is a waste of Iron.
Well I'm only at level 21.So maybe I was wrong,When I go to higher levels I might understand what you're telling.Thanks for the tips anyway Nighthawk. :)
Loading editor - DarthOrc wrote:MignightHawk wrote:Ordinary pickaxes cannot be improved....(enchanted, yes, improved, no).
On a side note, improving items only adds to the Smithing skill the septium value GAINED, so improving a pickaxe when there is no value difference is a waste of Iron.
Not really. I made a regular one legendary. Took everything Fortify Smithing, and the value? 10. Biggest waste of Iron Ingots.
Loading editor - MignightHawk wrote:DarthOrc wrote:Not really. I made a regular one legendary. Took everything Fortify Smithing, and the value? 10. Biggest waste of Iron Ingots.MignightHawk wrote:Ordinary pickaxes cannot be improved....(enchanted, yes, improved, no).
On a side note, improving items only adds to the Smithing skill the septium value GAINED, so improving a pickaxe when there is no value difference is a waste of Iron.PICKaxe, or WOODaxe?
Loading editor - Pink Slim wrote:MignightHawk wrote:PICKaxe, or WOODaxe?DarthOrc wrote:Not really. I made a regular one legendary. Took everything Fortify Smithing, and the value? 10. Biggest waste of Iron Ingots.MignightHawk wrote:Ordinary pickaxes cannot be improved....(enchanted, yes, improved, no).
On a side note, improving items only adds to the Smithing skill the septium value GAINED, so improving a pickaxe when there is no value difference is a waste of Iron.
No, you didn't. The Notched Pickaxe is the only known pickaxe that can be smithed, and its base value is 150 . Also, it would only take one ingot. We smell bovine fecal material!Loading editor - DarthOrc wrote:Pink Slim wrote:MignightHawk wrote:PICKaxe, or WOODaxe?DarthOrc wrote:Not really. I made a regular one legendary. Took everything Fortify Smithing, and the value? 10. Biggest waste of Iron Ingots.MignightHawk wrote:Ordinary pickaxes cannot be improved....(enchanted, yes, improved, no).
On a side note, improving items only adds to the Smithing skill the septium value GAINED, so improving a pickaxe when there is no value difference is a waste of Iron.
No, Pinky, you didn't. The Notched Pickaxe is the only known pickaxe that can be smithed, and its base value is 150 . Also, it would only take one ingot. We smell bovine fecal material!I didn't what?
Loading editor - DarthOrc wrote:Pink Slim wrote:MignightHawk wrote:PICKaxe, or WOODaxe?DarthOrc wrote:Not really. I made a regular one legendary. Took everything Fortify Smithing, and the value? 10. Biggest waste of Iron Ingots.MignightHawk wrote:Ordinary pickaxes cannot be improved....(enchanted, yes, improved, no).
On a side note, improving items only adds to the Smithing skill the septium value GAINED, so improving a pickaxe when there is no value difference is a waste of Iron.
No, Pinky, you didn't. The Notched Pickaxe is the only known pickaxe that can be smithed, and its base value is 150 . Also, it would only take one ingot. We smell bovine fecal material!Smithing the Notched Pickaxe? What? That's found on the Throat of the World! Uncraftable in any way! After all, it's unique! Look under Pickaxe, no pick can ever be crafted.
Loading editor - MignightHawk wrote:
Smithing the Notched Pickaxe? What? That's found on the Throat of the World! Uncraftable in any way! After all, it's unique! Look under Pickaxe, no pick can ever be crafted.By smithing we mean improving at a grindstone. the Notched Pickaxe can be improved at a grindstone with an iron ingot.
Loading editor - Pink Slim wrote:No, Pinky, you didn't. The Notched Pickaxe is the only known pickaxe that can be smithed, and its base value is 150 . Also, it would only take one ingot. We smell bovine fecal material!I didn't what?
We misread the pyramid and thought you claimed to have improved an ordinary pickaxe when it actually was MignightHawk who made the claim. We apologize (it is MignightHawk who is full of it).
Loading editor Buy/make all the leather strips and iron ingots you can, ake all iron daggers, get a lot of soul gems, preferably petty through common, and enchant them all with basic weapon enchantsments, then sell them back to a blacksmth. This will quickly raise smithing, enchanting, and speech, and it might also turn a minor profit.
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Buy/make all the leather strips and iron ingots you can, ake all iron daggers, get a lot of soul gems, preferably petty through common, and enchant them all with basic weapon enchantsments, then sell them back to a blacksmth. This will quickly raise smithing, enchanting, and speech, and it might also turn a minor profit.Quickly improve Enchanting, Yes; Smithing, HAH NO; speechcraft, not really.
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Buy/make all the leather strips and iron ingots you can, ake all iron daggers, get a lot of soul gems, preferably petty through common, and enchant them all with basic weapon enchantsments, then sell them back to a blacksmth. This will quickly raise smithing, enchanting, and speech, and it might also turn a minor profit.Let's see... Raises Enchanting a good deal, especially if Banish is used. Speech is irritatingly slow to raise. No change. Smithing? You're making lowly Iron Daggers. Make Dwarven Daggers/Bows and get a lot more with one extra (SUPER COMMON) ingot.
Loading editor build all 3 houses with all furniture... went from 51 to 97 ezey. but iron become rare :(
Loading editor- FaasnuMaarAh wrote:
build all 3 houses with all furniture... went from 51 to 97 ezey. but iron become rare :(I don't know why, before I buy the land everyone sells me like 20-30 iron, after I buy a plot of land, nothing. then when I finally manage to finish my house, BACK TO SELLING TONS OF IRON NOW!!!
Loading editor That works. However, the house is not directly part of the ranking up.
Loading editor- Pink Slim wrote:FaasnuMaarAh wrote:I don't know why, before I buy the land everyone sells me like 20-30 iron, after I buy a plot of land, nothing. then when I finally manage to finish my house, BACK TO SELLING TONS OF IRON NOW!!!
build all 3 houses with all furniture... went from 51 to 97 ezey. but iron become rare :(
I KNOW! I went all over Skyrim to find 4 iron ore and 1 ingot! The mining helpLoading editor - FaasnuMaarAh wrote:Pink Slim wrote:FaasnuMaarAh wrote:I don't know why, before I buy the land everyone sells me like 20-30 iron, after I buy a plot of land, nothing. then when I finally manage to finish my house, BACK TO SELLING TONS OF IRON NOW!!!
build all 3 houses with all furniture... went from 51 to 97 ezey. but iron become rare :(
I KNOW! I went all over Skyrim to find 4 iron ore and 1 ingot! The mining help
Yeah... I kinda see not 20-30 before, but around 50. And see 45 ingots when I built my house.Loading editor - FaasnuMaarAh wrote:
build all 3 houses with all furniture... went from 51 to 97 ezey. but iron become rare :(We learned to start mining and stockpiling iron and corundum from the very star. (corundum is needed to make steel and locks). We also buy all we can as well and by the time we can buy a plot of land we have enough to build the mansion.
Loading editor - Pink Slim wrote:FaasnuMaarAh wrote:I don't know why, before I buy the land everyone sells me like 20-30 iron, after I buy a plot of land, nothing. then when I finally manage to finish my house, BACK TO SELLING TONS OF IRON NOW!!!
build all 3 houses with all furniture... went from 51 to 97 ezey. but iron become rare :(It's covered in a subsection of Murphy's Law...
Loading editor Being a pack rat, I always hoarded raw materials from the start, so when I needed stuff I had plenty. I transmute all my iron ore into silver, and then gold ore for refining. I didn't make very much jewelry, however, because I gained plenty of experience upgrading all the junk armor and weapons I found dungeon-diving. Selling the upgraded items made plenty of money to buy all the blacksmiths' raw materials to use for the next batch, and also improved my speechcraft.
Loading editorTrust me, the Dwarven Smithing Perk is one of the few perks in which are best taken no matter what, even if you don't like Heavy Armor. I made about 100 Dwarven Bows, improved 20 of them, and enchanted the rest with Banish. My enchanting was at 75 before, it rose to around 90. Smithing was 72, then it exceeded 90. When I improved them, I used my 28% Fortify Smithing gear and 139% Fortify Smithing potions. All done legitly.
Loading editor- MignightHawk wrote:
Trust me, the Dwarven Smithing Perk is one of the few perks in which are best taken no matter what, even if you don't like Heavy Armor. I made about 100 Dwarven Bows, improved 20 of them, and enchanted the rest with Banish. My enchanting was at 75 before, it rose to around 90. Smithing was 72, then it exceeded 90. When I improved them, I used my 28% Fortify Smithing gear and 139% Fortify Smithing potions. All done legitly.We agree that Dwarven smithing is one of the best ways to improve smithing. Another thing to do, which can be done from the very start, is to make building materials (Hearthfire required). Any iron and corundum ore mined (or ingots of iron, steel and corundum) can be used if there is access to a smelter and a forge. It will raise smithing enough to take the Dwarven perk while building a stockpile of materials needed to build a mansion.
Loading editor Definitely true. Though I never liked crafting blindly... Too prone to overmaking. Come on now, I know houses need a lot of Nails, but making 1000 of them? Plain crazy talk! I mean, making within reason. 200-300 is OK, anything over that may end up as a waste of Iron. That is, unless you plan to build every house. Same with everything else. 200 Nails, 30 Fittings, 60 Hinges, and maybe 20 or so Locks would be ideal before you craft a house.
Loading editorYeah, and if you use up all your iron making nails, you could find yourself unable to make some other iron components later. In reality you could just melt down the excess nails, but recycling isn't an option in the game, except for a limited number of Dwemer/Dwarven items. Frankly, that's one of the stupidest things about smithing in this game. ALL of the metal items should be able to be melted down, including jewelry.
Loading editorThen, people will collect HUNDREDS of Iron tier weapons and convert it into Ingots. Flawed right there. If it were nails or jewelery only, I guess that would be OK...
Loading editormake iron daggers, enchant with banish, sell, buy new ores/ingots and do it again forever. shop owners have more materials and money after 48 hours. easiest to do in whiterun becuase shop owner is next to forge and her husband is inside also selling more.
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- 75.186.79.173 wrote:
for farming any skill text me at 513-312-7331Umm... Kinda creepy IMO.
Loading editor - MignightHawk wrote:
Definitely true. Though I never liked crafting blindly... Too prone to overmaking. Come on now, I know houses need a lot of Nails, but making 1000 of them? Plain crazy talk! I mean, making within reason. 200-300 is OK, anything over that may end up as a waste of Iron. That is, unless you plan to build every house. Same with everything else. 200 Nails, 30 Fittings, 60 Hinges, and maybe 20 or so Locks would be ideal before you craft a house.We never said to make unlimited quantities. The needed amounts can be looked up on this Wiki. Any left over can always be sold anyway.
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Lord Hardon, Dwarven Bows are better. While Arrows are about 96/ingot, Bows are 135/ingot. Very good ratio.
Loading editorDon't forget the hours of prep to get enough Firewood for that many arrows.
Loading editorHours of Prep? It's the easiest thihng EVER! No battles or traveling is required to collect thousands of Wood. To get that much, it would take hours though.
Loading editorI did mean for that much wood, getting wood is easy, but because you only get so much before you have to activate the woodblock again, it would take you too long, then you'd just quit five minutes in and make bows like a normal person.
Loading editorTrue. The only advantage to making thousands of arrows is that you never need to loot arrows ever again. You would create 2400 Arrows, that is about enough to last the average Skyrim player, not given retrieves and assuming the average enemy needs 5 arrows to die... 480 enemies.
Loading editorFine, I'll take down that inconsistent piece of shit strategy if it makes anyone happy.
Loading editor- MignightHawk wrote:
True. The only advantage to making thousands of arrows is that you never need to loot arrows ever again. You would create 2400 Arrows, that is about enough to last the average Skyrim player, not given retrieves and assuming the average enemy needs 5 arrows to die... 480 enemies.When I utilized that strategy I described, I forged over 10,000 Arrows, not 2400.
No joke.
Loading editor - Lord Hadron wrote:MignightHawk wrote:When I utilized that strategy I described, I forged over 10,000 Arrows, not 2400.
True. The only advantage to making thousands of arrows is that you never need to loot arrows ever again. You would create 2400 Arrows, that is about enough to last the average Skyrim player, not given retrieves and assuming the average enemy needs 5 arrows to die... 480 enemies.No joke.
Someone removed our analysis of why making and improving Dwarven bows was a better use of Dwarven metal ingots. Maby it was because we also noted an advantage to making arrows: they are weightless. (The bows the Dragonborn had to make to level smithing up to 100 required the Dragonborn and a follower several trips to lug them to buyers.)
Loading editor That someone was me. I had to delete your comment as well because it quoted mine.
Sorry.
Loading editor- Lord Hadron wrote:
That someone was me. I had to delete your comment as well because it quoted mine.Sorry.
It's O.K. (we do find it strange that, unlike in Oblivion, arrows are weightless).
We did not think your strategy was a P.O.S., just not the optimal. Also, crafting arrows is a good alternative to making bows if iron is in short supply, such as when building a mansion.
Loading editor Well everyone complained about it. Had to be taken down to prevent any further conflict.
I've seen enough conflict.
Loading editor- Lord Hadron wrote:MignightHawk wrote:When I utilized that strategy I described, I forged over 10,000 Arrows, not 2400.
True. The only advantage to making thousands of arrows is that you never need to loot arrows ever again. You would create 2400 Arrows, that is about enough to last the average Skyrim player, not given retrieves and assuming the average enemy needs 5 arrows to die... 480 enemies.No joke.
That was for 100 Ingots. I wou;d use that as a base template for much larger amounts. If you had 1000 ingots, you would make 24,000 ingots, or 500 Bows. I'm not saying creating 20,000 arrows for ranking up Smithing is bad, it's actually VERY VERY Useful. Unlike 500 bows, you could sell them off anytime, or use the arrows. Both of which, in the end, do the same job, but the usefulness of arrows is especially high compared to the bows. So what? You have 500 bows? Sure, you could enchant them, but outside of that, they're only useful if you plan on either using them (OK Earlier on) or selling them.
Loading editor House building materials, just got Hearthfire and found smithing the locks, nails and such has bumped me several levels so far it fairly quick too.Laslo451(talk) 15:18, October 3, 2013 (UTC)
Loading editorSure, but they don't have much value. They won't help in the later levels of Smithing.
Loading editor- Lord Hadron wrote:
Sure, but they don't have much value. They won't help in the later levels of Smithing.They are one of the better ways to raise smithing enough be able to take the Dwarven perk.
Loading editor Take the Dwarven perk. You mean it's a better strategy than Smithing Dwarven equipment?
Loading editor- Lord Hadron wrote:
Take the Dwarven perk. You mean it's a better strategy than Smithing Dwarven equipment?No, we mean it is a good way to raise Smithing to the point where the Dwarven Smithing perk can be taken. Then switch to crafting Dwarven bows (and/or arrows).
Loading editor Yeah. Create a House, or without HF, improve weapons scavenged from ruins. Then sell the improved weapons for meager profit. Rinse and repeat until Smithing reaches 30 and the Dwarven Smithing perk can be taken. Craft Bows/arrows made of Dwarven Metal up to 100. Bows could be improved with the usage of Smithing potions (boosts Alchemy and Smithing, as you're creating higher value items and crafting potions) and enchant them (Boosts Enchanting, as you're enchanting items) to further up their price and be sold back for massive profit. Arrows could be either used or sold off to help rob every septium a merchant has.
Loading editorI went up the light weapon (left) side of the Smithing tree first. Glass & Eleven weapons had a pretty good markup & provided plenty of seed money to buy my first house and from there money was never a problem, because I always had a place to stash loot until it could be sold.
Loading editorTo me, even if you went up Light, Dwarven Smithing is too useful to pass up. While Light Armorers may view it as a burned perk, you can speed up your smithing progression immensely. One dwarven bow is equivalent to 27 Iron Daggers in terms of progression, and it's a lot cheaper to buy two Dwarven Metal Ingots and an Iron Ingot over 27 Iron ingots and Leather Strips, too. One could buy two Dwarven metal for around 70 apiece, or buy 27 iron for 14/apiece. Add in the 6/Leather strips, and do the math. This is assuming the rate to buy the materials is twice their regular value, and sell value is half of the item's value.
Dwarven Bow: 140 (2 Dwarven Metal) + 14 (Iron Ingot) = 164. Re-sell for 135. End result: -29 gold.
Iron Daggers (27) 378 (Iron) + 162 (LS) 378 in Iron, and 162 in Leather Strips. Combine for... 660 gold in materials, and if you resell at 5/apiece, or 135 gold, you lost 525 gold.
Buying the IRON is enough to break your profits with the Daggers.
Loading editorDwarven metal objects that can be smelted into ingots are very common in Dwemer ruins, and most respawn in a week or so. We never buy Dwarven metal ingots. Also, if one uses three ingots, two to make the bow and one to improve it, the profit and skill increase is maximized.
Loading editorI just always mine ore when I find a vein, and then i just go to a smith and craft all the smallest objects I can, enchant them and sell them to blacksmiths/jewellers/traders, depending on the item and the amount of money I can get. I also carry around a few enchanted peices of jewellery, so when i buy an item I can sell them back and make my money back.
Loading editorWell, for one thing, a gap of 29 is easily made for with one item through tempering or enchanting, but 27 items at a gap of over 500 will again drain your profits, even more, with buying enough Soul Gems or Ingots to get it over the gap. Take what I said before, and say you have good enough Smithing to EXACTLY double your profits:
Dwarven Bow cost (3 Dwarven Metal + 1 Iron) = 234. Improved Bow would have a value of 540. Sell back for 270 Gold, and you get a nice profit of 36 gold.
Iron Daggers (27) cost (54 Iron and Leather Strips) = 1278. Improved Daggers would have a cumulative value of 540. The Daggers would be sold for 10/apiece, causing 270 income for a cost of 1278. You end up losing twice as much as before. 1008 Gold is lost buying the materials.
P.S. Iron Swords can be crafted at a higher value and require the same amount of materials. The value difference still does not make a profit.
Loading editorThe best profit margins are made by IMPROVING found objects & there are plenty to be found adventuring around. Mine whenever ore veins are found, and buy all the ore & ingots you can get your hands on. Save iron ore & silver ore for transmutation into gold.
Use the fortify alchemy/restoration loop exploit to make a pair of boots to allow you carry thousands of pounds of stuff & still be able to run/jump/fast-travel.
Loading editor- That beastly guy wrote:
To get from level 60 to 90 I smithed a TON of ebony stuff and that leveled me uo in 1-2 daysWait but.. you need lvl 80 to smith ebony..?
Loading editor Ebony is pretty rare, so I prefer to use it to upgrade Daedric armor and weapons.
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Ebony is pretty rare, so I prefer to use it to upgrade Daedric armor and weapons.
pretty rare? I am swimming in it!Loading editor I have tons of it too, I just prefer to use my resources wisely, that's why I've got almost 2 MILLION cash, and another MILLION worth of gems, and I don't know how many MILLIONS worth of weapons & armor.
Loading editorwow longest thread eva! and yes the dagger thing where you smith 100000 daggers has been patched now you have to make 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000
(exaggerated)
Loading editor- Xxgoldwyvernxx wrote:
wow longest thread eva! and yes the dagger thing where you smith 100000 daggers has been patched now you have to make 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000(exaggerated)
longest? HAHAHA
See if you can even load this one.
Loading editor Step by Step
To begin with - Go to Riften docks, perform the unfathomable depths quest,
Have the warrior sign, and use well rested bonuses often
Visit Gloombound mine (near windhelm) Talk to the orcs
Go to Markarth, perform the kolskeggr mine quest, mine gold and make jewelery, 9talk the the orc)
look for gold and silver locations (just type gold and silver in ther search bar on here, It's a shame you can't mine at the prison anymore, but never mind.)
When you get to level 30 go for dwarven metal, you will need a follower to use as a pack mule as you clear out dwemer ruins, and collect lots of dwemer metals. Make lots and lots of dwemer bows, and use 2/3 of your dwemer metal to make bows, use the other 3rd to improve on the grindstone. Look out for armour and jewelery with fortify smithing as you visit shops, to buy and equip and boost your smithing exp and profit.
Focus on dwarven bows until level 80 smithing, but also smith with whatever materials blacksmiths stores have for sale, then switch to ebony. Return to gloombound mine and other ebony rich locations, from now on you will be able to easily make a profit from any bow that you make and improve.
Its still easy to max out smithing in a day of play with a new character, just not as easy as it used to be.
Loading editor- Pink Slim wrote:Xxgoldwyvernxx wrote:longest? HAHAHA
wow longest thread eva! and yes the dagger thing where you smith 100000 daggers has been patched now you have to make 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000(exaggerated)
See if you can even load this one.
oh my gosh my computer froze when i tried to scroll down!!!!!
Loading editor Guys,Ihave lv.67 smithing and 5k gold. I am using the trnsmute spell. Can I get to lv.90 like this
Loading editordo you have precoious gems? like diamonds/sapphires/emeralds/rubies/etc. ?
if you do, make sure to make some of the iron ore into silver, some of those gems can only be crafted with silver, not gold, and they give you more value/experience than the two gold rings.
Loading editor- Pink Slim wrote:
do you have precoious gems? like diamonds/sapphires/emeralds/rubies/etc. ?if you do, make sure to make some of the iron ore into silver, some of those gems can only be crafted with silver, not gold, and they give you more value/experience than the two gold rings.
Not true. Jewels can be used to make items like gold diamond rings and gold ruby necklaces.
Examples:
1 flawless diamond + 1 gold ingot = 1 gold diamond necklace - base value 1,200 septims
1 diamond (not flawless) + 1 gold ingot = 1 gold diamond ring - base value 900 septims
1 amethyst + 1 silver ingot = 1 silver amethyst ring - base value 180 septims
1 flawless sapphire + 1 silver ingot = 1 silver sapphire necklace - base value 580 septims
Some jewels only work with gold, others only work with silver. As far as we know, there is no type of jewel that works with both gold and silver.
We stockpiled both silver and gold ingots along with jewels before we made Smithing legendary and were able to reach level 89 before we had to switch to Dwarven bows.
Loading editor ... I said some jewels only work with silver, that's why I said to make some silver. I said that the silver gem items are more valuable than the two plain gold rings, that's why I said not to make all of them into gold, you run out of gems that work with Gold and you're stuck with Silver gems that you can't use because you transmuted all your silver into gold.
TL;DR: make silver ingots to use up the gems that work with silver, then make the rest into gold, use that gold to make gold jewel items, then make the leftover gold into the two plain gold rings.
Loading editorSave iron. Hunt animals, collect pelts and make leather armors.
Loading editorFor maximum experience growth don't MAKE weapons & armor, you'll find plenty on the bodies of your defeated enemies. Instead IMPROVE them, it takes a lot less materials and the value increase is better. Besides, it's BORING to crank out a bunch of crappy daggers and junk armor.
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... I said some jewels only work with silver, that's why I said to make some silver. I said that the silver gem items are more valuable than the two plain gold rings, that's why I said not to make all of them into gold, you run out of gems that work with Gold and you're stuck with Silver gems that you can't use because you transmuted all your silver into gold.TL;DR: make silver ingots to use up the gems that work with silver, then make the rest into gold, use that gold to make gold jewel items, then make the leftover gold into the two plain gold rings.
If you use up the jewels that can be made into gold jewelry first, you will raise your smithing skill faster, as gold jeweled items are more valuable, on average, than silver ones. This gives you the option to use Dwarven and other advanced materials sooner. That way you can start efficiently improving more types of existing items. That gives you more options to make high value improvements to weapons and armor with the materials you have on hand, which can level your smithing much more quickly than making plain silver and gold jewelry.
Loading editor I never made much jewelry. I just collect/horde gold and gems for 'score-keeping'. So far, I have about 3 million worth of gold & silver ingots and gems, plus 2 million cash.
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Save iron. Hunt animals, collect pelts and make leather armors.Next step, invent wheel, move out of cave.;-p
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I never made much jewelry. I just collect/horde gold and gems for 'score-keeping'. So far, I have about 3 million worth of gold & silver ingots and gems, plus 2 million cash.We did the same until it became possible to make smithing legendary.
(We still have piles and piles of Septims.)Loading editor All I did was make gold rings till 80, and by then I had around 50 ebony bars and that was enough to get me to ~90 by making bows, then I just made two of each daedric item and improve them to legendary and that got me to 100 easily.
Loading editor- DarthOrc wrote:TodKarlson wrote:We did the same until it became possible to make smithing legendary.
I never made much jewelry. I just collect/horde gold and gems for 'score-keeping'. So far, I have about 3 million worth of gold & silver ingots and gems, plus 2 million cash.
(We still have piles and piles of Septims.)
Oh, I 'legendary-ed' Smithing 7 times over, but I did so by improving the tons of crappy armor I got from the thousands of people & draugr that I've killed. I 'legendary-ed' Enchanting using their weapons & lots of petty soul gems. I could continue until all my skill trees are full, but I've decided to challenge myself by 'legendary-ing' ALL of my skills at least once.Loading editor I used excel to simplify the process of calculating the value of each item, and posted the results at: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:500542
Long story short, Dwarven bows are BY FAR the best value, based on the price of the materials and the value of the item created. Therefore, if my analysis is correct, it's also the most efficient means of leveling. (90 smithing at the moment)
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I used excel to simplify the process of calculating the value of each item, and posted the results at: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:500542Long story short, Dwarven bows are BY FAR the best value, based on the price of the materials and the value of the item created. Therefore, if my analysis is correct, it's also the most efficient means of leveling. (90 smithing at the moment)
As we have said before on this thread, use 2 dwarven metal ingots and 1 iron ingot to make a bow, then use another Dwqarven metal ingot to improve it. Especially if potions and enchanted gear are used to boost smithing, the increase in value and to smithing is the greatest.Loading editor Jewelery is still better, until you run out of gems.
Loading editorNot if one considers the value of the materials used in relation to the final value of the item, especially if enchanted apparel and potions are used. (Fortify smithing potions and apparel enchanted with fortify smithing do not raise the value of jewelry. )
A legendary Dwarven bow worth many hundreds of septims costs about 100 septims to make, including the materials used to make the potion (which can be used on several bows if one is prepared). That is the same as the gold ingot, while the diamond costs over 800, for an item worth 1,200. That is a profit of only 300.
Loading editorwell when you have Transmutation the original cost for materials could would be much less if using two iron ore instead of the original gold ore.
Loading editorYes, but the cost of the jewels is the real issue. Plus, the gold ingot could have been sold, so the 'opportunity cost' is still 100 septims.
Loading editorOkay, if you have have Dragonborn I would suggest clearing out the Raven Rock mine and getting all the Ebony, all of it. And then if you have Ebony Smithing make. a. whole. flipping. ton of Ebony stuff. If you don't collect diamonds and use transmute to get Gold and make jewlery...also enchant.
Loading editorI guess, but I'd much rather increase the value of the gems before I sell them, and the only way to do that is by tossing in a gold/silver ingot, and with transmute it's more than worth the Iron ore's original 4 septim value(2 ore valued at 2 each) to make a flawless diamond go up that measley 200 septims from 1000 to 1200.
I don't see it as value lost or augmented, but value added.
This equation works only for items that use very few items to create.
let's use the example above:
to make a diamond neckalace you will need:
1x Flawless diamond(value 1000) & 1x Gold ingot(value 100)
1000 + 100 = 1100 = 1200
HOWEVER, when we use an item that is created from another item we should include the original item's value instead of the current value.
1000 + (2[20]) = 1040 = 1200
BUT WAIT, the gold ore can also be created from something else
1000 + (2 [2]) = 1004 = 1200
which means when you use the diamond as the base you multiply the value of two pieces of iron ore by 50.
Loading editorIt still gets you less than 200 septims profit for an investment of over 1,000. That is only about 20% return. Three Dwarven metal ingots plus 1 iron ingot is less than 100 septims. the resultant bow is worth at least three times that (usually over 5 times if good potions and equipment are used). That is a return of over 200%.
Plus, flawless diamonds are much harder to come by than bent Dwemer scrap metal...just say'n.
Loading editor- DarthOrc wrote:
It still gets you less than 200 septims profit for an investment of over 1,000. That is only about 20% return. Three Dwarven metal ingots plus 1 iron ingot is less than 100 septims. the resultant bow is worth at least three times that (usually over 5 times if good potions and equipment are used). That is a return of over 200%.Plus, flawless diamonds are much harder to come by than bent Dwemer scrap metal...just say'n.
true, but what are you going to do with any jewels you find? it's not like you can do anything with them besides crafting more valuable items with gold or silver. yes dwemer bows are of better value, but jewlery is of better use of resources(you can enchant them and use them, whereas dwemer bows are outclassed)
Loading editor I collect gems and gold as 'score keeping', because as demonstrated by prior posts, the return on smithing jewelry is lousy & much better rates of return are obtained using smithing to IMPROVE (not make) weapons and armor.
Loading editor- Pink Slim wrote:but jewlery is of better use of resources(you can enchant them and use them, whereas dwemer bows are outclassed)
Bows can be enchanted, too. The discussion isn't about that, though, it is about raising smithing. Besides, bows can be sold, and money never goes out of style...
Loading editor Using Dragonborn DLC, it's better to craft dwemer arrows instead of bows. You need 1 dwemer ingot and 1 firewood for 24 arrows. You can command your follower to cut wood, which makes firewood's high weight irelevant. I had at a point 150 firewood on my follower and he was still running circles around me :). This allows for iron ore to be transmuted for jewelry. Also arrows have no weight, much easier to carry 4k arrows around= weight 0, than 50 bows...Resell value is quite close also.
Later stages i move to ebony, crafting ebony bows and improving them. I preffer the bows since they seem the most cost effective to produce.
Loading editorI have this prowler's profit and my inventory is stock full of gems till they are weighing me down. Also, Kolseggr mine is an easy source of gold, so are all silver mines and iron mines (transmute). If you wanna make jewelry, get prowler's profit and open all the chests. Selling the jewelry is good for levelling speech too. Also, jewelry can be kept so that it can be made into potent rings and amulets
In fact, levelling smithing can be free if you are willing to go into the mines yourself to mine ore. Using elemental fury and attacking the veins seem to be the fastest way to mine ore.
Ebony bows make a good source of EXP as ebony is a common ore and easy to find (gloomsbound, redbelly and raven rock mines are full of that crap), plus you can keep your fav bow and use it later. Dwarven crossbows are good for levelling smithing if you can make them too, as all the dwemer ruins are full of stuff, plus you can steal stuff from calcelmo.
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Using Dragonborn DLC, it's better to craft dwemer arrows instead of bows. You need 1 dwemer ingot and 1 firewood for 24 arrows. You can command your follower to cut wood, which makes firewood's high weight irelevant. I had at a point 150 firewood on my follower and he was still running circles around me :). This allows for iron ore to be transmuted for jewelry. Also arrows have no weight, much easier to carry 4k arrows around= weight 0, than 50 bows...Resell value is quite close also.Later stages i move to ebony, crafting ebony bows and improving them. I preffer the bows since they seem the most cost effective to produce.
You can't improve arrows or enchant them.... With four items of fortify smithing + 30 apparal and a good potion - ours are + 130, a dwarven bow can be raised to be worth much more than the arrows made from 3 ingots. That raises smithing more as the increase is based on value.
Loading editor good thought, although i prefer to go to whiterun and activate the skyforge glitch and steal all of the loot improve it all and sell it. increasing speech and smithing.(enchanting is another option) also try to gather alot of iron or iron banded armor and improve and enchant and sell them to the blacksmith in solitude until he has no money and then travel to whiterun and sell them there
for i am also a level 48 in smithing currently on my new save due to the deletion of my old save
requires a high encumberment cappacity and a level over 40. encumberment level has to meet 600 and above
Loading editorI would usually make loads of gold and diamond necklaces.
Loading editorThe fastest way I think is to craft a lot of gold rings.
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We agree. Crafting Dwarven bows and then improving them using potions and enchanted gear levels smithing the fastest, especially with alchemy and enchanting skills at 100, as is often the case when the smithing skill has been made legendary.
The materials to make high value jewelry ( flawless jewels, diamonds, etc.) are much harder to come by than dwarven metal and iron ingots. Plus, jewelry cannot be improved.
Loading editorThe fastest way would be console commands, otherwise you should loot the secret whiterun and dawnstar chests, then just make as many things as you can. (Bigger pieces such as chestplates will give you more smithing skill than iron daggers).
Loading editorConsole commands aren't much use to those who play on consoles, and their use would be cheating.
The secret chests do not have nearly enough in them to raise smithing to 100, plus, cleaning them out is also a kind of exploit. Remember, the original question was about legitimate ways to raise smithing.
Loading editorI consider the chests to be an easter egg rather than an exploit, also the original question was 'Fastest way to improve smithing?'.
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I consider the chests to be an easter egg rather than an exploit, also the original question was 'Fastest way to improve smithing?'.the secret chests are not easter eggs.
an easter egg and an exploit are two things that are the exact opposite of eachother.
an easter egg is something that was purposefully hidden, but intended to be used. an exploit is something that wasn't hidden well enough by accident, and was most definitely not inteded to be used. just because they didn't patch it doesn't mean it's not an exploit.
Loading editor How do you know that it wasn't intended, if Bethesda didn't want the chests, then they simply could have removed them. I still consider them easter eggs though.
Loading editorIs that so. Well...Look up the definition of an Easter Egg and you will see you are wrong.
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How do you know that it wasn't intended, if Bethesda didn't want the chests, then they simply could have removed them. I still consider them easter eggs though.DarthOrc is right. The chests are exploits. Anyhow I always make every weapon and armor piece once and then fully upgrade them
Loading editor I looked up the definition and I am still not convinced, however whether the chests are easter eggs or exploits is irrelevant to the topic.
Loading editorI can't believe that in over 200 posts NOBODY has said what I'm about to say. Uninstall the patch that nerfed smithing to begin with, jack it up to 100, and then reinstall patch if you need it. Gravy! :)
I personally have always preferred hide bracers to iron daggers myself. The reason being that you only need leather for the bracers, and leather is THE most common smithing resource in the game in spite of what some posts here have claimed. For the daggers, while iron is plentiful and cheap too, you still need 2 different ingredients to make them(iron ingot + leather strip). For hide/leather you just need leather because you use that to make the strips as well. The reason i prefer hide bracers to leather(same raw material requirements) is because they're cheaper/easier to sell. I'm personally not in it for the coin. There's infinite coin to be had in the game from infinite sources. No need to fuss over that when working smithing/enchanting specifically imo. I'm just in it to level smithing/enchanting to 100. That's it. I get my coin elsewhere, and I have plenty lol.
Loading editor- 70.34.133.250 wrote:
I can't believe that in over 200 posts NOBODY has said what I'm about to say. Uninstall the patch that nerfed smithing to begin with, jack it up to 100, and then reinstall patch if you need it. Gravy...except that if you uninstall the patch it will say it's not compatible.
Plus said patch is prior to the patch which allows use of DLC content, so using said patch would delete any and all items/spells/abilities/transformation perks/followers/quests[progress] added with the DLC; This include Homesteads, which are the most used player homes for anyone with Hearthfire DLC, and deleting a homestead will also delete any and all items stored within; So go ahead and delete the patches and download necessary patch, but don't forget to move absolutely everything out of your Homestead, prepare to redo a ton of quests to reaquire gear you lost, and hope to god that it actually works out because if it doesn't you just screwed yourself out of time that could have been spent grinding away until your smithing is high enough to get dwarven smithing so you can make dwarven bows.
Loading editor - Pink Slim wrote:70.34.133.250 wrote:except that if you uninstall the patch it will say it's not compatible...
I can't believe that in over 200 posts NOBODY has said what I'm about to say. Uninstall the patch that nerfed smithing to begin with, jack it up to 100, and then reinstall patch if you need it. Gravy...Yeah but the overwhelming majority of people that fit the category you descirbe here are no longer worried about smithing anyway. I mean if you already have tons of gear and completed quests to be lost here, then your smithing should be 100 by that point anyway if you want it to be so. Patch or no patch.
That said, my suggestion is more for new characters/new runs. I wasn't featuring already seasoned characters that use smiththing a lot would need ANY suggestions for leveling it tbh. If you were making a new guy for a new run, doing what I suggest is WAY cheaper and faster than the patched method.
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Yeah but the overwhelming majority of people that fit the category you descirbe here are no longer worried about smithing anyway. I mean if you already have tons of gear and completed quests to be lost here, then your smithing should be 100 by that point anyway if you want it to be so. Patch or no patch.
That said, my suggestion is more for new characters/new runs. I wasn't featuring already seasoned characters that use smiththing a lot would need ANY suggestions for leveling it tbh. If you were making a new guy for a new run, doing what I suggest is WAY cheaper and faster than the patched method.
We like to make smithing (and alchemy) legendary, so your argument doesn't hold water for us. Make building materials and arrows until able to smith Dwarven bows. Then hit the Dwemer ruins. What could be cheaper? (Remember, allow three ingots of Dwarven metal per bow, two to to craft it, one to to upgrade it.) You will make tons of money, too.
Loading editorI smith all my own gear and then enchant it with the best enchantment I have learned. Then I stroll along to the local shop and sell all my upgraded gear. Level up 3 skills in one go if you are lucky.
Loading editorSmithing level is based on the value of what you make. So smith the most valuable stuff using the least resources each time. Upgrading equiptment raises the level that much more, so always remember to keep enough ingot to upgrade everything you craft.
Loading editorCreating Dwarven Bows can also be exploited by melting dwemer scraps and buying iron ingots to make them easily. Selling them is also preferable.
Loading editor- 112.198.77.46 wrote:
Creating Dwarven Bows can also be exploited by melting dwemer scraps and buying iron ingots to make them easily. Selling them is also preferable.That's exactly what we meant when we said to hit the Dwemer ruins....
Loading editor - DarthOrc wrote:Pink Slim wrote:MignightHawk wrote:PICKaxe, or WOODaxe?DarthOrc wrote:Not really. I made a regular one legendary. Took everything Fortify Smithing, and the value? 10. Biggest waste of Iron Ingots.MignightHawk wrote:Ordinary pickaxes cannot be improved....(enchanted, yes, improved, no).
On a side note, improving items only adds to the Smithing skill the septium value GAINED, so improving a pickaxe when there is no value difference is a waste of Iron.
No, you didn't. The Notched Pickaxe is the only known pickaxe that can be smithed, and its base value is 150 . Also, it would only take one ingot. We smell bovine fecal material!I can second MignightHawk's claim - I've tempered a pickaxe too.
I'm running a few mods, so probably one of those is responsible. Most of them are cosmetic or quest mods, though. The only ones I can think of that are likely to cause that are the Unofficial Skyrim Patch or the Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.
Loading editor We were referring to Vanilla Skyrim - mods and the exploits they allow belong on The Elder Scrolls Mods Wiki, not here. If an action cannot be done on a console (we test on an XBox360), we don't report it here.
Loading editorAll I did was made high valued items then (having a high speech skill) sold the items and got the speech up aswell the smithing and enchanting if I wanted too $$$$
Loading editorThe best way is to do the exploit on alchemy through the restoration potions. You just make a whole set of equipment with fortify alchemy, you make a restoration potion, you drink the potion, unequip requip the the armor set with fortify alchemy and repeat the process:
Once you make a powerful enough restoration potion you drink it and make a fortify smithing potion. Use the smithing potion to improve an armor piece at a workbench and you will reach level one hundred immediately.
Loading editor- 186.80.185.10 wrote:
The best way is to do the exploit on alchemy through the restoration potions. You just make a whole set of equipment with fortify alchemy, you make a restoration potion, you drink the potion, unequip requip the the armor set with fortify alchemy and repeat the process:Once you make a powerful enough restoration potion you drink it and make a fortify smithing potion. Use the smithing potion to improve an armor piece at a workbench and you will reach level one hundred immediately.
You will get to level 100 on alchemy in the process.
Loading editor It may be cheating but at least it's effective and quick since this thread's asking for quickest and not the most legit
Loading editor186.80.185.10 wrote:The best way is to do the exploit on alchemy through the restoration potions. You just make a whole set of equipment with fortify alchemy, you make a restoration potion, you drink the potion, unequip requip the the armor set with fortify alchemy and repeat the process:
Once you make a powerful enough restoration potion you drink it and make a fortify smithing potion. Use the smithing potion to improve an armor piece at a workbench and you will reach level one hundred immediately.
Don't know about you guys but this always glitches my game up, so use with caution.
Loading editorIt's perfect for me when I use it, maybe you don't have the latest patch
Loading editorIf you decide to go up heavy armor path, and you have hearthfire and dragonborn dlcs, make iron fittings, jewerlry , and anything else until you gets dwarven smithing. Then create dwarven bows and jewelry if you wish. Get up to 80, then get the ebony smithing perk. Make ebony bows and stalhrim bows and improve them. There ya go.
Loading editorOne tip I just discovered on the last playthrough: The amount of smithing skill gained depends on the value of the item being improved. So make the item, enchant the item, THEN improve the item. You're improving a much more valuable item and your skill goes up faster. (Note that this requires you to have the 'arcane blacksmith' perk).
Personally, I made a lot of helms of waterbreathing because it makes a comparatively small difference to the value whether you use a petty soul gem or a grand one...
Similarly, if you improve every enchanted item you find before you sell it, it does wonders for your skill AND your profit margin. :)
Loading editorFind the Transmute mineral ore alteration spell, which can be found in the mine at Halted Stream Camp, and buy/mine as many iron ore as you can and keep using the spell, and then after it says you have no more ore that can be transmuted go to a furnace to get Gold bars and make loads of jewlery.
Loading editor- Irrevenant wrote:
One tip I just discovered on the last playthrough: The amount of smithing skill gained depends on the value of the item being improved. So make the item, enchant the item, THEN improve the item. You're improving a much more valuable item and your skill goes up faster. (Note that this requires you to have the 'arcane blacksmith' perk).Personally, I made a lot of helms of waterbreathing because it makes a comparatively small difference to the value whether you use a petty soul gem or a grand one...
Similarly, if you improve every enchanted item you find before you sell it, it does wonders for your skill AND your profit margin. :)
Not exactly true - the skill increase idepends on the INCREASE in value of the item smithed. An item worth 10 gold, improved in value by 10 gold (to 20 gold final value) gives the same Smithing skill increase as an item worth 1,000 gold increased by 10 gold (to 1,010 gold total).The only difference comes with the increase in the Speechcraft skill when the two items are sold.
The size of the soul gem makes absolutely no difference in the value of an item given the enchantements Waterbreathing and Muffle. (Tested with muffle, hide boots, and a petty and grand soul.)
Loading editor - DarthOrc wrote:Irrevenant wrote:
One tip I just discovered on the last playthrough: The amount of smithing skill gained depends on the value of the item being improved. So make the item, enchant the item, THEN improve the item. You're improving a much more valuable item and your skill goes up faster. (Note that this requires you to have the 'arcane blacksmith' perk).Personally, I made a lot of helms of waterbreathing because it makes a comparatively small difference to the value whether you use a petty soul gem or a grand one...
Similarly, if you improve every enchanted item you find before you sell it, it does wonders for your skill AND your profit margin. :)
Not exactly true - the skill increase idepends on the INCREASE in value of the item smithed. An item worth 10 gold, improved in value by 10 gold (to 20 gold final value) gives the same Smithing skill increase as an item worth 1,000 gold increased by 10 gold (to 1,010 gold total).The only difference comes with the increase in the Speechcraft skill when the two items are sold.
The size of the soul gem makes absolutely no difference in the value of an item given the enchantements Waterbreathing and Muffle. (Tested with muffle, hide boots, and a petty and grand soul.)
Huh. Well that's disappointing. It certainly SEEMED faster...EDIT: Was sufficiently doubtful that I went and checked. The cost increase for improving weapons is indeed fixed regardless of value. That was a waste of time. xD
Loading editor New way to level smithing after patch! You will need the spell tome: Transmute Mineral Ore, you can find the spell in the Halted Stream Camp, Northeast of Whiterun. But the spell tome will not always spawn there so be weary. You canalso buy it from one of the alteration mages in the College of Winterhold (sometimes a court wizard has one.) Next get as much Iron, Silver and Gold Ore as you can. Next simply got to a place that has a forge and smelter, and equip transmute and sit there and use it. If you do not have alot of magika just wait an hour and you should have regained full magika. The spell tome transmute turns all Iron Ore to Silver Ore to Gold Ore. After you have a good sum of Gold Ore got to the smelter and turn all f it into Gold Ingots, then go to the forge and go to the jewlery tab and scroll until you find gold rings, then use all the gold you have to make the rings and then level up. (remeber to have the Warrior Stone blessing and a well rested bonus for maximum fast leveling.
Loading editorThere is this quest to clear a mine full of forsworn. If you manage to kill them all, there is at least 20-40 gold ore there! you don't even have to use transmute! Left hand mine I think it was called.
Going through here and crafting a LOAD of jewelerry to me up 15 levels of smithing.
Loading editorActually its not left hand mine, the guy in left hand mines asks you to go clear up the other mine.
Loading editor- 14.203.34.26 wrote:
There is this quest to clear a mine full of forsworn. If you manage to kill them all, there is at least 20-40 gold ore there! you don't even have to use transmute! Left hand mine I think it was called.Going through here and crafting a LOAD of jewelerry to me up 15 levels of smithing.
It's kloseggr mine (not sure if I spelt that right)
Loading editor If you have hearthfire then just buy a ton of iron, make nails and sell em. Use the gained money to buy more iron, repeat.
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Fastest way is...
First complete the Methune's Razor's quest. Once you have access to his shrine, you can loot all the gold ingots and silver ingots forever as long as you wait for the respawn time. Once you collected enough gold and silver ingots, make jewelry. You gain smithing skills faster when crafting such things. You also earn quite a bit in septims so it's a win win situation. Plus you get a ton of daedra hearts while you're at it. Also when selling jewelry, due to its expensive value, you level up your speech pretty fast.
Loading editorFastest way is without a doubt, smithing stalhrim bows. After unlocking ebony smithing i found the stalhrim bows have a very high value, being around 2000. And since the smithing exp is absed on the value of the object smithed, it jumps up very fast. I crafted around 19 bows and smithing jumped from 80 to 89.
also, the bows require only 3 bits of stalhrim for each. But if you are low level at smithing, look for the most expensive item you can craft and collect tonnes of the resources needed.
Loading editorIron daggers until you get Dwarven smithing. Then Dwarven Bows until you get Orcish. Then Orcish helmets and dwarven bows until you reach your goal. Only problem doing it this way is that if you are power leveling smithing at low levels, Dwarven and Orcish ingots are rare. You can go hit the Orcish stronghold mines for ore, (They won't attack you, even though they keep telling you to get out), but you still have to buy some eventually. Dwarven ruins are going to be tough at low levels, so getting scrap metal is near impossible. The transmute ore spell is better at low levels, but the time needed to recover magica makes it time consuming and a little tedious.
Loading editorFastest method to improve smithing right from the start is by crafting jewelry. Iron daggers is by far the slowest method and not recommended.
Go clear out Kolskegger Mine. There are plenty of gold ore veins.
Loading editorIron daggers is fine until you hit Dwarven, then it is not recommended. Besides, who really needs to fast level smithing. I would smith every time I had to go back a city or town to turn in a quest, when I used up all the ore and ingots I could gather/buy,I would move on with questing. I stayed ahead of what the game gives you for gear, and I didn't have to waste countless hours doing nothing but smithing.
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- 14.203.34.26 wrote:
There is this quest to clear a mine full of forsworn. If you manage to kill them all, there is at least 20-40 gold ore there! you don't even have to use transmute! Left hand mine I think it was called.Going through here and crafting a LOAD of jewelerry to me up 15 levels of smithing.
That is also dependent on your smithing level. I left Kolskegger with 30 gold ingots, with a smithing level of 71, I only gained 1 3/4 levels, and that also includes making at least 8 pieces with flawless gems.
Loading editor I'm just farming Dwarven Ruins, I haven't completed many, 3 to be exact. What I do is if you have a house store, all your stuff, apart from 1 weapon and some light armour, incase. I then travel to the completed ruins and gather struts, etc... Once I'm full travel to a smith. Melt it and make Dwarven Bows, then repeat. If you don't have Dwarven Smithing. Iron Daggers will do for the first 30 levels. It cost me 150 Ingots cause' I CBA to get a decent stone. (Lovers Stone).
Loading editorOne mistake I made was picking up 'everything' with Dwemer inffront of it. I filled my inventory with Dwemer Bowls and Gyros...
Loading editorGolden Diamond Necklaces worked for me. Got from level 20-58 in 2 minutes. They also sell for 1200 gold each, more with enchantments so they're good to make and sell.
Loading editorMine a ton of iron ore, use transmute until it turns it all into gold, smelt the gold, make necklaces or rings with the gold and the occasional gems you find in iron vaines and sell it. This levels up smithing, alteration, speech, and gives you a ton of gold. It's also kinda fun so you aren't friggin bored to death. You can also enchant the jewelry of you have a ton of soul gems laying around. That also levels up enchanting.
Loading editorIf I'm not mistaken, Smithing levels up depending on the item's value (before it was an Iron Dagger party lol). So try to always get the most bang for your buck when smithing, that is, try to always create the most expensive item with the same amount of material. If you are using Enchanting in your playthrough, you can buy every ore and bars from sellers and enough charged gems, then enchant every weapon you made with Banish. You will make money this way, without ever needing to mine or kill every animal in the game hahaha
^ Transmute is also a good idea.
Loading editorI think that at this point the OP has got smithing to level 100. And Legendary.
Loading editor- That beastly guy wrote:
To get from level 60 to 90 I smithed a TON of ebony stuff and that leveled me uo in 1-2 daysThis is a really late response compared to when beastly first said this but the prerequisite for ebony is 80+ smithing. 60 is below that.
Loading editor - Spartan Jack 17 wrote:
I think that at this point the OP has got smithing to level 100. And Legendary.I usually see the date of the last reply, but not the date the topic was created hahaha. Thanks for pointing that out, my bad.
Loading editor I did it legit the first time round, because I swore to myself that I wouldn't use any guides. Took me forever. Especially with Blackreach and the elder scroll. Also any puzzles that came along. Has taken me ages to get to level 64.
Second time through I used every exploit known to Skyrimmers to get the best equipment. Especially that one underneath the Skyforge and Eorlund Gray-Mane's Skyforge. This took hours of rinse and repeat. I finally gave up and just went hunting. Always made stuff out of Dwemer stuff that I find in Aftland, Mzinchaleft and the other ruins. I am up to level 78 now with my new character, finished Dawnguard, Dragonborn, Civil War and Main Quests. This took me a lot less time.
Loading editorCollect every Ancient Nord weapon you find and reforge them into Nord Hero weapons at the Sky Forge in Whiterun.
Lots of smiting experience and you turn almost worthless weapons into expensive ones that have an excellent damage to weight ratio.Loading editorI sell these. Now I mostly make Ebony stuff after I found out a glitch for the Gloombound mine
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Loading editorHonestly, I'd recommend creating Iron Daggers until you're able to create Nordic Maces.
Loading editorPrior to patch 1.9 (I think?) forging iron daggers worked great. But they changed how smithing XP worked - it's now based on the value of the item so spamming iron daggers doesn't work. Sans-Dragonborn, one of the most efficient ways to level smithing is actually to clean out the gold and silver mines and make jewellery since it's based on value. How making millions of necklaces improves your skill to forge weapons, I don't know...
Loading editorI just uninstall all patches and DLC and make iron daggers until i get smithing where i want it. then re-download everything. way faster than grinding the new 'value' system.
Loading editorIf your looking for a cheat to do this (Unfair advantage) then watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA7UbL7FtHk, check the comments for Peter Tobin and read the one saying 'can't believe how many people can't seem to get this' for a written detailed baby step description on how to use it, it's simple and gives you any item you want using hex code's, what you do briefly is place 1 item (REMEMBER what you chose) in a barrel outside (personally I go to Riften and start making my way along each barrel with each use of the editor as you can stockpile items required for creating other items like ingots you may choose to use one barrel to fill with iron ingots in one use/save, use editor again doing same process on the next barrel to fill with leather/strips and with the next use/save fill the next one along from it with black soul gems so you have all you could ever need for leveling your smithing and enchanting, if it doesn't work for you, you are 100% without a shadow of a doubt doing it wrong somehow because it works and will always be working
Loading editorIf your looking for a cheat to do this (Unfair advantage) then watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA7UbL7FtHk, check the comments for Peter Tobin and read the one saying 'can't believe how many people can't seem to get this' for a written detailed baby step description on how to use it, it's simple and gives you any item you want using hex code's, what you do briefly is place 1 item (REMEMBER what you chose) in a barrel outside personally I go to Riften and start making my way along each barrel with each use of the editor as you can stockpile items required for creating other items like ingots you may choose to use one barrel to fill with iron ingots in one use/save, use editor again doing same process on the next barrel to fill with leather/strips and with the next use/save fill the next one along from it with black soul gems so you have all you could ever need for leveling your smithing and enchanting, if it doesn't work for you, you are 100% without a shadow of a doubt doing it wrong somehow because it works and will always be working
Loading editorfor me, i went around different areas; whiterun, dawnstar, windhelm, etc.. and i bought as many ebony ingots as possible using enchanted boots for extra carry weight. of course, this was after i gained as much money as possible i then went back to windhelm and bought ebony ingot from war maidens. i went by the war maidens and crafted as many ebony bows as possible. it almost instantly increased a level every bow i made. after getting to level sixty and so on, it started requiring multiple to increase one level. but this increased it the fastest ove ever seen.
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for me, i went around different areas; whiterun, dawnstar, windhelm, etc.. and i bought as many ebony ingots as possible using enchanted boots for extra carry weight. of course, this was after i gained as much money as possible i then went back to windhelm and bought ebony ingot from war maidens. i went by the war maidens and crafted as many ebony bows as possible. it almost instantly increased a level every bow i made. after getting to level sixty and so on, it started requiring multiple to increase one level. but this increased it the fastest ove ever seen.Except you normally need 80 smithing to even get the perk to be able to craft ebony stuff which means you are using mods or w/e and this method isn't really helpful.
The smithing skill increase depends on the cost of item. High cost-low crafting recourse items are the obvious choice. I usually craft Dwarven bows and jewerly which still is a lot of work.
Loading editor Hey guys a little trick ive found for increasing about 10 levels in smithing fairly easily is to go to Earlund Gray Mane at the Skyforge and pay him to teach you in smithing, But to save gold considering it could get costly, pick pocket the gold back from him. Make sure you have a high pickpocket level as well, wouldnt want him to catch you!
Loading editorThree different ways to improve smithing fast.
1. Get the transmute mineral ore spell from Halted Stream Camp then convert every iron ore into silver or gold to make jewelry.
2. Raid a dwarven ruin to get a ton of dwarven ingots and make some dwarven bows then improve them.
3. If you have enough gold, get some smithing training from someone like Eouland Gray-Mane then pickpocket your gold back from him.
Some other things to take into consideration:
You should enchant the things you smith if you want to level enchanting as well.
You could also make fortify smithing potions to increase alchemy.
You should also wear fortify smithing gear, have the notched pickaxe equiped, have the ancient knowledge perk, drink a fortify smithing potion, have the warrior stone active, have the aetherial crown on with the lover's stone active, and have the well rested perk active for the best leveling.
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Recover the stones of Berenziah to receive the prowlers profit. This will drastically increase the amount of prescious gems recovered in urns, chests, dwarven chests, etc. The mineral ore transmution spell is a helpful tool, as there are plenty of iron ore veins around just waiting to be turned into gold ore, not to mention the silver and gold ore veins in Kolskegger and Karthwasten. I use this method to make large amounts of money, increase alteration, (transmute) increase speechraft, (selling high level jewelry) - (you can enchant to increase value of jewelry, certainly.)
On top of that, the post patched version of the game dictates that the value of items are directly connected to your level of smithing in terms of speed that you increase. Therefore, making gold jewelry with prescious gems really pushes you up in smithing, and all the sooner to crafting better armor. Hope this helps.
Loading editorI have my own way dunnon if is the fastest out there, but i cant find a faster way.U will need iron ingots, leather and leather strips.Make only nails (1 iron) with iron ingots if u have hearthfire, if u not well make iron daggers (1iron 1strip) but wil cost an extra strip.And make leather bracers (1leather 2 strips) with leather and strips.do that untl 100 smithing and nothing more.Buy iron ores, iron ingots, leathers, strips, fur plates. And make iron ingots, leather and leather strips with them. Also hunt and mine wherever u can for the same ingridients. But dont need to look for it go play the game and make money that will be enough.Sell everythingu make for some gold and repeat.If u using mods theres other recipes u can use for better level up but the idea is make what costs lees is chep to buy and not rare to encounter on store. Wich means iron ore and leather, anything that use the miniimum of that will do the tricky and u can filther the reciep with skyui mod, and use better message box mod to simply pres E, E ,E ,E a thousand times to upragrade quickly oince u have a lot itens.
Loading editorI have over 65,000 septims and I want to level up smithing fast
Loading editorMy personal favourite method is:
Step one: Mine all the gold and silver ore you can find
Step two: Use Transmute to turn your Iron Ore into Silver Ore, and your Silver Ore into Gold all
Step Three: Smelt the gold into ingots and start crafting plain Gold Rings.
(Of course, if you have lots of materials you can craft other things with it, but you will get 2 gold rings for every ingot you use, thats why I make them)
Step Four: Enchant them, if you so wish.
Step Five: Profit!... And start over!
It may not be the fastest way, but you can easily level up your Smithing, Alteration, Enchanting and Speech, as well as making some gold at the same time.
Also, whilst we're here, if possible craft some helmets and enchant them with Waterbreathing with a petty soul gem. Even iron and hide helmets instantly go up by at least a hundred in value, it's how I get my enchanting up quickly while making some coin.
Loading editor- ODragono wrote:
Train Train Train.... Smith iron daggers... (just smith amything you can)..Eorlund Gray-Mane is the best trainer.
Does making hide armor also increase my smithing?
Loading editor Yes, making any item increases your skill. The higher value the item, and the more materials used, the greater the increase.
Loading editorMy gosh, just transmute iron into gold to make jewelry. ( The higher value of the item you make the more experience you get from making it )
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